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yabbadabbadoo wrote: Thu Jun 06, 2024 2:21 pm
Larry Fine wrote: Thu Jun 06, 2024 12:31 pm
RBH23 wrote: Thu Jun 06, 2024 8:31 am

Reality could hit even before Pendleton leaves:

Let’s start with this year. With a massive senior class and one of the best players in the state, this is the year for IHS to finally win that elusive state title. If that doesn’t happen this year, they have no chance for the foreseeable future. So the game against Wheelersburg in 2024 is a must win. Lose this, and the season could come apart like cheap lawn furniture. Even making the playoffs will be in question.

Same goes for next year. Given what Ironton is losing from this class, if the schedule doesn’t get easier, they will be fighting just for a playoff spot.

Now, to your point, Pendleton is definitely auditioning to get out of Ironton. That is without question. When he leaves, Ironton will lose their top recruiter while being stuck scheduling teams way above their weight class in order to fill a schedule. Will be very sad times at IHS.

And this is why Burg fans are not envious of Ironton. We know it’s a house of cards with Ironton on the verge of not only failing to win a state title, but also failing to make the playoffs most years due to an overpowering schedule. The recruits that have been so instrumental in IHS’s recent success will vanish like a fart in the wind.
For all the online time , research , thought, pages and pages of writing, critical thinking that you’ve put into Burg and Ironton football on SEO preps …. You could’ve had an online Masters Degree


You know the funny thing though, on all of it he speaks the truth. Nothing he has said has been fabricated!
All of it fabricated and twisted to fit his narrative.

The guy throwing the ball to Perkins was pretty good. Carpenter.
3 yr starter and started 2 state championships. Ironton kid.

Keyes wasn’t the best RB on the team. That’s why he didn’t receive the bulk of the carries.

Felder only played in about half the games and didn’t have 500 yds total.

Ironton kids that stood out on that team

Carpenter- U Pike Backup QB
Carter- In transfer portal. 4 star LB committed to UC
Barnes- Great HS LB. 3 yr starter / led Ironton in tackles
Wilson- 3 yr Starter. Pound for pound the best player on team
Young- 3rd WR in rotation/Very good DB/ 3 yr starter
Martin- Starting Corner/. Now plays for Army West Point

That’s just the seniors in that class. Not counting underclassman.

Now let’s compare Wheelersburg class that year to that?

The 2027 class at Ironton may be the best to ever come through by the time it’s all said and done. There’s 15-20 of them. They are the class that has dominated everyone including beating Wheelersburg badly every year. The cupboard stays full.


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No excuses


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packers80 wrote: Thu Jun 06, 2024 3:00 pm No excuses
For Wheelersburg?


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yabbadabbadoo wrote: Thu Jun 06, 2024 7:18 am
RBH23 wrote: Thu Jun 06, 2024 6:36 am
Tri_State79 wrote: Wed Jun 05, 2024 11:00 pm

I always wonder why or how I guess, given burgs superior culture, & Woodards championship coaching, & Burgs superior academics & demographics, & larger enrollment, that Pendletons horrible coaching & irontons inferiority, has pretty much tea bagged Woodard & Burg? lol. Do burg fans wonder about that before they start woofin about coaching & culture?

Now a days its aĺl the transfers fault. Burg fans need a crutch or an excuse to divert to. Too many excuses and the truth is Woodard is getting beat in his tough regular season games. And woodard cant win region 19.
The Jimmy’s and Joe’s do matter, especially when it’s college level talent:
- Salyers
- Keyes
- Felder
- Perkins
- Pittman
- Copas
- Thacker
- Washington
- Masters
- Etc (a few lineman from WV whose names I don’t recall)

Pendleton’s high school recruits are an all-star team all by themselves. That makes a massive difference. Lots of starts, TDs, yards, and tackles on that list!


They just don't get it. You take Keyes, Felder and Perkins off that team two years ago, where does the offense come from? Those three were probably close to 80% of their offense. Hell, maybe even higher than that.
Meanwhile burg is losing returners and gettin housed by Ironton & Prep every season. I'll take Irontons problems. Sounds like the program is losing enthusiasm.


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RBH23 wrote: Thu Jun 06, 2024 6:23 am
Tri_State79 wrote: Wed Jun 05, 2024 10:40 pm
RBH23 wrote: Wed Jun 05, 2024 12:21 pm

The team still made the regional finals last year, so they didn’t completely give up.

That said, let’s see how they perform this year. Kids can say one thing but then still perform. This happened back in my day as well. Many coaches we didn’t like, hated playing for etc. yet still had success on the field, court, etc.

Plus, the rumors on this site get crazy. Example: some on this site had Rucker not even playing, yet find out the truth that he’s not only playing but excited about the upcoming season. Another example: according to this site, the Lattimore brothers were transferring to Ironton every single year. Why? Unhappy with the coaches.

And if I had a nickel for every kid that said “no way am I playing next year” or “this is the end of Wheelersburg’s dominance in football”, I’d be Elon Musk rich!
Is the older burg staff starting to lose the locker room? Is burg potentially in need of a refresh?
Nope, Burg is just fine. Let’s not forget, Woodward has a state ring. How about Pendleton?
2017 burg aint walkin through that door. Burgs HC cant beat Ironton. Cant beat Prep. Cant get outta the region. Its either coaching or lack of talent or both.


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RBH23 wrote: Thu Jun 06, 2024 6:36 am
Tri_State79 wrote: Wed Jun 05, 2024 11:00 pm
fbnut wrote: Tue Jun 04, 2024 12:40 pm

Let’s not kid ourselves, if he had all home grown talent like his predecessor he would still be getting pounded by burg and struggling in the OVC
I always wonder why or how I guess, given burgs superior culture, & Woodards championship coaching, & Burgs superior academics & demographics, & larger enrollment, that Pendletons horrible coaching & irontons inferiority, has pretty much tea bagged Woodard & Burg? lol. Do burg fans wonder about that before they start woofin about coaching & culture?

Now a days its aĺl the transfers fault. Burg fans need a crutch or an excuse to divert to. Too many excuses and the truth is Woodard is getting beat in his tough regular season games. And woodard cant win region 19.
The Jimmy’s and Joe’s do matter, especially when it’s college level talent:
- Salyers
- Keyes
- Felder
- Perkins
- Pittman
- Copas
- Thacker
- Washington
- Masters
- Etc (a few lineman from WV whose names I don’t recall)

Pendleton’s high school recruits are an all-star team all by themselves. That makes a massive difference. Lots of starts, TDs, yards, and tackles on that list!
So all these jimmys & joes preferred Ironton as a transfer destination? Why is that?


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Tri_State79 wrote: Wed Jun 05, 2024 11:00 pm
fbnut wrote: Tue Jun 04, 2024 12:40 pm
XandOs wrote: Tue Jun 04, 2024 12:31 pm

He took a 2018 Ironton team his first year to within 1 yard of upsetting the state runner ups on their home field in 1st round of playoffs. You know the same team that put a running clock on Wheelersburg 3 weeks later at Jackson in State Semis. How was that coaching job. You sir are a 🤡 and make yourself look stupid. Ironton was underdogs in each of the state championships in last 3 years. Just cause they had D1 kids you think otherwise. But remember those are the D1 kids you say aren’t any good. Those are also kids from this area that moved to Ironton and you always talk about how there’s very few D1 talent around here if any. I bet if you asked the staff they would say worst game they’ve ever called is that 2021 game vs. Wheelersburg. It wasn’t good and I’d bet those guys at Ironton would tell you that. But didn’t the QB have 5 Turnovers and the Defense held Wheelersburg to less than 100 yds. Must have been some good coaching? Imagine if they won that like they were suppose to and he would hold a 5-1 record over Woodward and the Pirates since he took over a program that was finishing 4th in OVC previously. Just face it. You hate the Ironton program and have personal hatred towards Pendleton because he’s putting pressure on the Wheelersburg program like never before.
Let’s not kid ourselves, if he had all home grown talent like his predecessor he would still be getting pounded by burg and struggling in the OVC
I always wonder why or how I guess, given burgs superior culture, & Woodards championship coaching, & Burgs superior academics & demographics, & larger enrollment, that Pendletons horrible coaching & irontons inferiority, has pretty much tea bagged Woodard & Burg? lol. Do burg fans wonder about that before they start woofin about coaching & culture?

Now a days its aĺl the transfers fault. Burg fans need a crutch or an excuse to divert to. Too many excuses and the truth is Woodard is getting beat in his tough regular season games. And woodard cant win region 19.
Burg coach is point blank gettin his ass handed to him in R19. Full stop.


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XandOs wrote: Thu Jun 06, 2024 2:39 pm
yabbadabbadoo wrote: Thu Jun 06, 2024 2:21 pm
Larry Fine wrote: Thu Jun 06, 2024 12:31 pm

For all the online time , research , thought, pages and pages of writing, critical thinking that you’ve put into Burg and Ironton football on SEO preps …. You could’ve had an online Masters Degree


You know the funny thing though, on all of it he speaks the truth. Nothing he has said has been fabricated!
All of it fabricated and twisted to fit his narrative.

The guy throwing the ball to Perkins was pretty good. Carpenter.
3 yr starter and started 2 state championships. Ironton kid.

Keyes wasn’t the best RB on the team. That’s why he didn’t receive the bulk of the carries.

Felder only played in about half the games and didn’t have 500 yds total.

Ironton kids that stood out on that team

Carpenter- U Pike Backup QB
Carter- In transfer portal. 4 star LB committed to UC
Barnes- Great HS LB. 3 yr starter / led Ironton in tackles
Wilson- 3 yr Starter. Pound for pound the best player on team
Young- 3rd WR in rotation/Very good DB/ 3 yr starter
Martin- Starting Corner/. Now plays for Army West Point

That’s just the seniors in that class. Not counting underclassman.

Now let’s compare Wheelersburg class that year to that?

The 2027 class at Ironton may be the best to ever come through by the time it’s all said and done. There’s 15-20 of them. They are the class that has dominated everyone including beating Wheelersburg badly every year. The cupboard stays full.
Is this post a joke? No way can you actually believe what you just typed. However, let’s lay out the facts:

- Burg lost 12-3 to Ironton to start the season. Felder and Perkins scored the two touchdowns.

- In the regional finals, Perkins scored three touchdowns and had two interceptions. Dominated the game.

- In the state semifinals, Keyes and Felder rushed for 220 or Ironton’s 250 yards on the ground with Keyes scoring three touchdowns.

- In the finals, Perkins had two touchdowns and Felder had one.

So in Ironton’s last three games of that year:
- Perkins: 5 touchdowns
- Felder: 2 touchdowns
- Keyes: 3 touchdowns

Ironton scored 14 touchdowns in those three games with Felder, Perkins, and Keyes accounting for 10 of them. In case your math is as bad as your memory, that’s over 70%!!

And you downplay their contributions? LMAO!!!

Btw, took my 5 minutes to find this, and 5 to type it.


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Tri_State79 wrote: Thu Jun 06, 2024 3:44 pm
Tri_State79 wrote: Wed Jun 05, 2024 11:00 pm
fbnut wrote: Tue Jun 04, 2024 12:40 pm

Let’s not kid ourselves, if he had all home grown talent like his predecessor he would still be getting pounded by burg and struggling in the OVC
I always wonder why or how I guess, given burgs superior culture, & Woodards championship coaching, & Burgs superior academics & demographics, & larger enrollment, that Pendletons horrible coaching & irontons inferiority, has pretty much tea bagged Woodard & Burg? lol. Do burg fans wonder about that before they start woofin about coaching & culture?

Now a days its aĺl the transfers fault. Burg fans need a crutch or an excuse to divert to. Too many excuses and the truth is Woodard is getting beat in his tough regular season games. And woodard cant win region 19.
Burg coach is point blank gettin his ass handed to him in R19. Full stop.
Yet he has the ring :)


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Tri_State79 wrote: Thu Jun 06, 2024 3:40 pm
RBH23 wrote: Thu Jun 06, 2024 6:23 am
Tri_State79 wrote: Wed Jun 05, 2024 10:40 pm

Is the older burg staff starting to lose the locker room? Is burg potentially in need of a refresh?
Nope, Burg is just fine. Let’s not forget, Woodward has a state ring. How about Pendleton?
2017 burg aint walkin through that door. Burgs HC cant beat Ironton. Cant beat Prep. Cant get outta the region. Its either coaching or lack of talent or both.
Unfortunately 1989 isn’t returning either.

Last Ironton players to win a ring are in their 50’s!!


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yabbadabbadoo wrote: Thu Jun 06, 2024 2:21 pm
Larry Fine wrote: Thu Jun 06, 2024 12:31 pm
RBH23 wrote: Thu Jun 06, 2024 8:31 am

Reality could hit even before Pendleton leaves:

Let’s start with this year. With a massive senior class and one of the best players in the state, this is the year for IHS to finally win that elusive state title. If that doesn’t happen this year, they have no chance for the foreseeable future. So the game against Wheelersburg in 2024 is a must win. Lose this, and the season could come apart like cheap lawn furniture. Even making the playoffs will be in question.

Same goes for next year. Given what Ironton is losing from this class, if the schedule doesn’t get easier, they will be fighting just for a playoff spot.

Now, to your point, Pendleton is definitely auditioning to get out of Ironton. That is without question. When he leaves, Ironton will lose their top recruiter while being stuck scheduling teams way above their weight class in order to fill a schedule. Will be very sad times at IHS.

And this is why Burg fans are not envious of Ironton. We know it’s a house of cards with Ironton on the verge of not only failing to win a state title, but also failing to make the playoffs most years due to an overpowering schedule. The recruits that have been so instrumental in IHS’s recent success will vanish like a fart in the wind.
For all the online time , research , thought, pages and pages of writing, critical thinking that you’ve put into Burg and Ironton football on SEO preps …. You could’ve had an online Masters Degree


You know the funny thing though, on all of it he speaks the truth. Nothing he has said has been fabricated!
Thanks for the compliment.

Truth, facts, and data can be hard for some to digest. 1989 was a long time ago, and it is just killing these IHS fans that despite all the talent, they still can’t win the big prize. Plus, Burg winning it in 2017 really eats at their souls.

If no state title comes by 2028 (after the greatest IHS team of all time passes through), some of these IHS fans will need to be on suicide watch.


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Larry Fine wrote: Thu Jun 06, 2024 12:31 pm
RBH23 wrote: Thu Jun 06, 2024 8:31 am
yabbadabbadoo wrote: Thu Jun 06, 2024 7:36 am



When was Johnstown ever up by 30? The final ended up 32-14. When was the running clock?

Why was ironton the underdog against South Range two years ago? They had way more talent than SR did. SR kept running the same play over and over and Ironton couldn't stop it. It was hard to watch. Ironton staff made no adjustment to that play.

Also, Pendleton is 4-2 against Burg.

There's no hate of the Ironton program. It's just that you clowns can't admit to the fact without all the recruits you are a mediocre team at best. Every kid that he has brought in, without them you aren't winning crap there.

You all chest bumping and high fiving about the scholarships he is getting for these kids and IMO he is doing that to try and get his name out there which was obvious last year when he applied for the Cincinnati Moeller job without telling anyone at ironton!

When he leaves the program and it will happen (see above) we will sit back and watch the empire crumble. You won't have a league to play in and without the talent coming in, it will be a hard pill to swallow for all of you in Ironton. It will be a sad, sad day. Good luck in trying to schedule 10 teams to play you every year.
Reality could hit even before Pendleton leaves:

Let’s start with this year. With a massive senior class and one of the best players in the state, this is the year for IHS to finally win that elusive state title. If that doesn’t happen this year, they have no chance for the foreseeable future. So the game against Wheelersburg in 2024 is a must win. Lose this, and the season could come apart like cheap lawn furniture. Even making the playoffs will be in question.

Same goes for next year. Given what Ironton is losing from this class, if the schedule doesn’t get easier, they will be fighting just for a playoff spot.

Now, to your point, Pendleton is definitely auditioning to get out of Ironton. That is without question. When he leaves, Ironton will lose their top recruiter while being stuck scheduling teams way above their weight class in order to fill a schedule. Will be very sad times at IHS.

And this is why Burg fans are not envious of Ironton. We know it’s a house of cards with Ironton on the verge of not only failing to win a state title, but also failing to make the playoffs most years due to an overpowering schedule. The recruits that have been so instrumental in IHS’s recent success will vanish like a fart in the wind.
For all the online time , research , thought, pages and pages of writing, critical thinking that you’ve put into Burg and Ironton football on SEO preps …. You could’ve had an online Masters Degree
One, I do an extensive amount of critical thinking, research, and writing for a living. However, that pertains to extremely difficult problems that impact people’s lives all over the world. Real stress demanding real solutions and results.

Two, high school football is not an extremely difficult problem. Easy to analyze and understand with a few clicks of a button and simple observation. Burg/Ironton football is a nice break from serious matters.

Three, just take emotion out of the discussion. If you do that, the data and facts become very clear. Sure, I throw some smack in the conversation for fun, but at the end of the day, I just stick to the data and facts.


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What is critical thinking? When your not high ?


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RBH23 wrote: Thu Jun 06, 2024 5:27 pm
Larry Fine wrote: Thu Jun 06, 2024 12:31 pm
RBH23 wrote: Thu Jun 06, 2024 8:31 am

Reality could hit even before Pendleton leaves:

Let’s start with this year. With a massive senior class and one of the best players in the state, this is the year for IHS to finally win that elusive state title. If that doesn’t happen this year, they have no chance for the foreseeable future. So the game against Wheelersburg in 2024 is a must win. Lose this, and the season could come apart like cheap lawn furniture. Even making the playoffs will be in question.

Same goes for next year. Given what Ironton is losing from this class, if the schedule doesn’t get easier, they will be fighting just for a playoff spot.

Now, to your point, Pendleton is definitely auditioning to get out of Ironton. That is without question. When he leaves, Ironton will lose their top recruiter while being stuck scheduling teams way above their weight class in order to fill a schedule. Will be very sad times at IHS.

And this is why Burg fans are not envious of Ironton. We know it’s a house of cards with Ironton on the verge of not only failing to win a state title, but also failing to make the playoffs most years due to an overpowering schedule. The recruits that have been so instrumental in IHS’s recent success will vanish like a fart in the wind.
For all the online time , research , thought, pages and pages of writing, critical thinking that you’ve put into Burg and Ironton football on SEO preps …. You could’ve had an online Masters Degree
One, I do an extensive amount of critical thinking, research, and writing for a living. However, that pertains to extremely difficult problems that impact people’s lives all over the world. Real stress demanding real solutions and results.

Two, high school football is not an extremely difficult problem. Easy to analyze and understand with a few clicks of a button and simple observation. Burg/Ironton football is a nice break from serious matters.

Three, just take emotion out of the discussion. If you do that, the data and facts become very clear. Sure, I throw some smack in the conversation for fun, but at the end of the day, I just stick to the data and facts.
I’m referring more to the fact that you obviously check this website every few minutes for most of your day. How do find the time to solve real problems?


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Any info on who Wheelersburg is scrimmaging this year or any 7 on 7 information? Hate to wish summer away but exited for 2024 season to start👍


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Larry Fine wrote: Thu Jun 06, 2024 5:33 pm
RBH23 wrote: Thu Jun 06, 2024 5:27 pm
Larry Fine wrote: Thu Jun 06, 2024 12:31 pm

For all the online time , research , thought, pages and pages of writing, critical thinking that you’ve put into Burg and Ironton football on SEO preps …. You could’ve had an online Masters Degree
One, I do an extensive amount of critical thinking, research, and writing for a living. However, that pertains to extremely difficult problems that impact people’s lives all over the world. Real stress demanding real solutions and results.

Two, high school football is not an extremely difficult problem. Easy to analyze and understand with a few clicks of a button and simple observation. Burg/Ironton football is a nice break from serious matters.

Three, just take emotion out of the discussion. If you do that, the data and facts become very clear. Sure, I throw some smack in the conversation for fun, but at the end of the day, I just stick to the data and facts.
I’m referring more to the fact that you obviously check this website every few minutes for most of your day. How do find the time to solve real problems?
I travel a lot.


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artisgilmore wrote: Thu Jun 06, 2024 5:33 pm What is critical thinking? When your not high ?
It’s “you’re.”


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Tri_State79 wrote: Thu Jun 06, 2024 3:41 pm
RBH23 wrote: Thu Jun 06, 2024 6:36 am
Tri_State79 wrote: Wed Jun 05, 2024 11:00 pm

I always wonder why or how I guess, given burgs superior culture, & Woodards championship coaching, & Burgs superior academics & demographics, & larger enrollment, that Pendletons horrible coaching & irontons inferiority, has pretty much tea bagged Woodard & Burg? lol. Do burg fans wonder about that before they start woofin about coaching & culture?

Now a days its aĺl the transfers fault. Burg fans need a crutch or an excuse to divert to. Too many excuses and the truth is Woodard is getting beat in his tough regular season games. And woodard cant win region 19.
The Jimmy’s and Joe’s do matter, especially when it’s college level talent:
- Salyers
- Keyes
- Felder
- Perkins
- Pittman
- Copas
- Thacker
- Washington
- Masters
- Etc (a few lineman from WV whose names I don’t recall)

Pendleton’s high school recruits are an all-star team all by themselves. That makes a massive difference. Lots of starts, TDs, yards, and tackles on that list!
So all these jimmys & joes preferred Ironton as a transfer destination? Why is that?
Good question!!


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Tri_State79 wrote: Thu Jun 06, 2024 3:41 pm
RBH23 wrote: Thu Jun 06, 2024 6:36 am
Tri_State79 wrote: Wed Jun 05, 2024 11:00 pm

I always wonder why or how I guess, given burgs superior culture, & Woodards championship coaching, & Burgs superior academics & demographics, & larger enrollment, that Pendletons horrible coaching & irontons inferiority, has pretty much tea bagged Woodard & Burg? lol. Do burg fans wonder about that before they start woofin about coaching & culture?

Now a days its aĺl the transfers fault. Burg fans need a crutch or an excuse to divert to. Too many excuses and the truth is Woodard is getting beat in his tough regular season games. And woodard cant win region 19.
The Jimmy’s and Joe’s do matter, especially when it’s college level talent:
- Salyers
- Keyes
- Felder
- Perkins
- Pittman
- Copas
- Thacker
- Washington
- Masters
- Etc (a few lineman from WV whose names I don’t recall)

Pendleton’s high school recruits are an all-star team all by themselves. That makes a massive difference. Lots of starts, TDs, yards, and tackles on that list!
So all these jimmys & joes preferred Ironton as a transfer destination? Why is that?
Because Pendleton is a fantastic recruiter! That is what he does best, and it’s not even close.

For his and Ironton’s sake, hopefully Kaskey can bring the X’s and O’s to IHS. Just keep the janitorial closets locked!


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LOL, So now you guys are bringing the janitors into the discussion! I still say Tigers 9-1 and Wheelersburg around 6-4


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