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Division II Southeast District

Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2023 9:03 am
by Softball5
Bio's have been submitted and voting will occur soon. Opinion on seeding.
1. New Lexington - 16-3 (Key wins Tri Valley, Warren, Sheridan, and KIPP)
2. Washington Courthouse - 16-4 (Key wins Miami Trace and Gallia Academy)
3. Fairfield Union - 15-3 (Key wins West Muskingum, Sheridan, Bishop Hartley)
4. Miami Trace - 16-3 (Key win Zane Trace)
5. Gallia Academy
6. Ironton
7. Marietta
8. Warren
9. Vinton County
10. Sheridan
11. Alexander
12. Unioto
13. Jackson
14. Circleville
15. Logan Elm
16. Athens
17. Hillsboro
18. McClain
19. Waverly
20. Bidwell River Valley

Re: Division II Southeast District

Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2023 9:13 am
by bbjunky81
1-4 could go a variety of ways... but I do agree those are the top 4 teams, I'm just not sure what order.

Re: Division II Southeast District

Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2023 11:24 am
by Hookshot
Softball5 wrote: Wed Feb 01, 2023 9:03 am Bio's have been submitted and voting will occur soon. Opinion on seeding.
1. New Lexington - 16-3 (Key wins Tri Valley, Warren, Sheridan, and KIPP)
2. Washington Courthouse - 16-4 (Key wins Miami Trace and Gallia Academy)
3. Fairfield Union - 15-3 (Key wins West Muskingum, Sheridan, Bishop Hartley)
4. Miami Trace - 16-3 (Key win Zane Trace)
5. Gallia Academy
6. Ironton
7. Marietta
8. Warren
9. Vinton County
10. Sheridan
11. Alexander
12. Unioto
13. Jackson
14. Circleville
15. Logan Elm
16. Athens
17. Hillsboro
18. McClain
19. Waverly
20. Bidwell River Valley
Not a bad list/ranking. Not sure about 5-9. They are close, but I’m not sure strength of schedule gets you to this conclusion.

Re: Division II Southeast District

Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2023 11:29 am
by MattyIce
Gallia has lost to Ironton twice, so I’m not sure they will be ranked ahead of the Tigers.

Re: Division II Southeast District

Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2023 11:52 am
by danicalifornia
MattyIce wrote: Wed Feb 01, 2023 11:29 am Gallia has lost to Ironton twice, so I’m not sure they will be ranked ahead of the Tigers.
That’s what I was coming here to post. Looks pretty good besides that. I have no clue on New Lex, but they definitely have good wins.

Miami Trace’s 3 losses have all came against very good teams, but they really lack the big win for them to argue a higher seed.

Unioto does own a head to head win over Alexander…but, bump us down to the 13 to get a home game for the first round lol

Re: Division II Southeast District

Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2023 12:46 pm
by Ironman92
danicalifornia wrote: Wed Feb 01, 2023 11:52 am
MattyIce wrote: Wed Feb 01, 2023 11:29 am Gallia has lost to Ironton twice, so I’m not sure they will be ranked ahead of the Tigers.
That’s what I was coming here to post. Looks pretty good besides that. I have no clue on New Lex, but they definitely have good wins.

Miami Trace’s 3 losses have all came against very good teams, but they really lack the big win for them to argue a higher seed.

Unioto does own a head to head win over Alexander…but, bump us down to the 13 to get a home game for the first round lol
Nope you beat us….we get the 13

Re: Division II Southeast District

Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2023 12:58 pm
by danicalifornia
Ironman92 wrote: Wed Feb 01, 2023 12:46 pm
danicalifornia wrote: Wed Feb 01, 2023 11:52 am
MattyIce wrote: Wed Feb 01, 2023 11:29 am Gallia has lost to Ironton twice, so I’m not sure they will be ranked ahead of the Tigers.
That’s what I was coming here to post. Looks pretty good besides that. I have no clue on New Lex, but they definitely have good wins.

Miami Trace’s 3 losses have all came against very good teams, but they really lack the big win for them to argue a higher seed.

Unioto does own a head to head win over Alexander…but, bump us down to the 13 to get a home game for the first round lol
Nope you beat us….we get the 13
But it took OT, so factoring in the home court advantage, you guys deserve the 12, so we’ll take the 13.

Glad we got that figured out

Re: Division II Southeast District

Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2023 1:29 pm
by Ironman92
danicalifornia wrote: Wed Feb 01, 2023 12:58 pm
Ironman92 wrote: Wed Feb 01, 2023 12:46 pm
danicalifornia wrote: Wed Feb 01, 2023 11:52 am

That’s what I was coming here to post. Looks pretty good besides that. I have no clue on New Lex, but they definitely have good wins.

Miami Trace’s 3 losses have all came against very good teams, but they really lack the big win for them to argue a higher seed.

Unioto does own a head to head win over Alexander…but, bump us down to the 13 to get a home game for the first round lol
Nope you beat us….we get the 13
But it took OT, so factoring in the home court advantage, you guys deserve the 12, so we’ll take the 13.

Glad we got that figured out
Also beat Alexander by 70

Re: Division II Southeast District

Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2023 1:47 pm
by Hookshot
MattyIce wrote: Wed Feb 01, 2023 11:29 am Gallia has lost to Ironton twice, so I’m not sure they will be ranked ahead of the Tigers.
Also worth considering whether Gallia and Ironton should be ahead of Vinton County and Marietta.

Re: Division II Southeast District

Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2023 4:33 pm
by jcbigblue13
Hookshot wrote: Wed Feb 01, 2023 1:47 pm
MattyIce wrote: Wed Feb 01, 2023 11:29 am Gallia has lost to Ironton twice, so I’m not sure they will be ranked ahead of the Tigers.
Also worth considering whether Gallia and Ironton should be ahead of Vinton County and Marietta.
Why Vinton ahead of any of them?? Just on record?? Or some other reason??

Re: Division II Southeast District

Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2023 4:44 pm
by Bleacher92
Yeah, not to mention Gallia beat Marietta by 13. It was only that close because of garbage time points.

Re: Division II Southeast District

Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2023 4:57 pm
by jcbigblue13
Softball5 wrote: Wed Feb 01, 2023 9:03 am Bio's have been submitted and voting will occur soon. Opinion on seeding.
1. New Lexington - 16-3 (Key wins Tri Valley, Warren, Sheridan, and KIPP)
2. Washington Courthouse - 16-4 (Key wins Miami Trace and Gallia Academy)
3. Fairfield Union - 15-3 (Key wins West Muskingum, Sheridan, Bishop Hartley)
4. Miami Trace - 16-3 (Key win Zane Trace)
5. Gallia Academy
6. Ironton
7. Marietta
8. Warren
9. Vinton County
10. Sheridan
11. Alexander
12. Unioto
13. Jackson
14. Circleville
15. Logan Elm
16. Athens
17. Hillsboro
18. McClain
19. Waverly
20. Bidwell River Valley
I will give it a shot

1. Miami Trace
2. Fairfield Union
3. New Lexington
4. Washington C.H
5. Ironton
6. Gallia
7. Marietta
8. Warren
9. Vinton County
10. Alexander
11. Jackson
12. Sheridan
13. Unioto
14. Circleville
15. Logan Elm
16. Athens
17. Hillsboro
18. McClain
19. Waverly
20. River Valley

Re: Division II Southeast District

Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2023 5:11 pm
by Hookshot
Bleacher92 wrote: Wed Feb 01, 2023 4:44 pm Yeah, not to mention Gallia beat Marietta by 13. It was only that close because of garbage time points.
Better record. Strength of schedule.

Re: Division II Southeast District

Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2023 5:18 pm
by Daug12
Ironman92 wrote: Wed Feb 01, 2023 12:46 pm
danicalifornia wrote: Wed Feb 01, 2023 11:52 am
MattyIce wrote: Wed Feb 01, 2023 11:29 am Gallia has lost to Ironton twice, so I’m not sure they will be ranked ahead of the Tigers.
That’s what I was coming here to post. Looks pretty good besides that. I have no clue on New Lex, but they definitely have good wins.

Miami Trace’s 3 losses have all came against very good teams, but they really lack the big win for them to argue a higher seed.

Unioto does own a head to head win over Alexander…but, bump us down to the 13 to get a home game for the first round lol
Nope you beat us….we get the 13
You both beat us so we get the 13

Re: Division II Southeast District

Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2023 5:25 pm
by jcbigblue13
Hookshot wrote: Wed Feb 01, 2023 5:11 pm
Bleacher92 wrote: Wed Feb 01, 2023 4:44 pm Yeah, not to mention Gallia beat Marietta by 13. It was only that close because of garbage time points.
Better record. Strength of schedule.
Who's strength of schedule??

Re: Division II Southeast District

Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2023 6:09 pm
by Ironman92
Daug12 wrote: Wed Feb 01, 2023 5:18 pm
Ironman92 wrote: Wed Feb 01, 2023 12:46 pm
danicalifornia wrote: Wed Feb 01, 2023 11:52 am

That’s what I was coming here to post. Looks pretty good besides that. I have no clue on New Lex, but they definitely have good wins.

Miami Trace’s 3 losses have all came against very good teams, but they really lack the big win for them to argue a higher seed.

Unioto does own a head to head win over Alexander…but, bump us down to the 13 to get a home game for the first round lol
Nope you beat us….we get the 13
You both beat us so we get the 13
Sorry, your record is too good 🤷🏻‍♂️

Re: Division II Southeast District

Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2023 9:57 pm
by Hookshot
Hookshot wrote: Wed Feb 01, 2023 11:24 am
Softball5 wrote: Wed Feb 01, 2023 9:03 am Bio's have been submitted and voting will occur soon. Opinion on seeding.
1. New Lexington - 16-3 (Key wins Tri Valley, Warren, Sheridan, and KIPP)
2. Washington Courthouse - 16-4 (Key wins Miami Trace and Gallia Academy)
3. Fairfield Union - 15-3 (Key wins West Muskingum, Sheridan, Bishop Hartley)
4. Miami Trace - 16-3 (Key win Zane Trace)
5. Gallia Academy
6. Ironton
7. Marietta
8. Warren
9. Vinton County
10. Sheridan
11. Alexander
12. Unioto
13. Jackson
14. Circleville
15. Logan Elm
16. Athens
17. Hillsboro
18. McClain
19. Waverly
20. Bidwell River Valley
Not a bad list/ranking. Not sure about 5-9. They are close, but I’m not sure strength of schedule gets you to this conclusion.
On closer look, the top 7 look relatively obvious at this point. Some teams have no "bad losses" while others have few "key" wins. How do you measure that? I can see different points of view weighing those factors. I might have Marietta at this point in the season at No. 5 or 6 but it's close with Gallia and Ironton. Head-to-head, winning percentage, winning and losing margins, etc. Close call.

Re: Division II Southeast District

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2023 9:00 pm
by Whs95fan
What all seeds get a home game?

Re: Division II Southeast District

Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2023 10:31 am
by Tri-StateYouthSports
Whs95fan wrote: Thu Feb 02, 2023 9:00 pm What all seeds get a home game?
Look at the D-II mock seeding bracket.
https://www.southeasternohiopreps.com/v ... =4&t=93071

Thru sectional finals, games are @ the higher seed.

Re: Division II Southeast District

Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2023 11:20 am
by Whs95fan
Tri-StateYouthSports wrote: Fri Feb 03, 2023 10:31 am
Whs95fan wrote: Thu Feb 02, 2023 9:00 pm What all seeds get a home game?
Look at the D-II mock seeding bracket.
https://www.southeasternohiopreps.com/v ... =4&t=93071

Thru sectional finals, games are @ the higher seed.
Thanks, another post I read had me confused and wanted some clarification.